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Wallahi some of the rapists knew her and were asking for her. Khoisan: (A-M6): 12.9. The only black African groups any ancient Egyptians population (Badarians)show any similarity to are the Somalis, Ethiopians and other groups of mixed ancestry- which is unsurprising as the Badaraians seem to be a mix of Eurasian and East African just like them but slightly higher in Eurasian. The project is open to all Somali from all regions (Somalia, … The admixture in these groups are not Arab (, Because its annoying as fuck! The older papers put m78 as East African in origin, but it’s incorrect. Somalis are not mixed with anything. R1b in the Ouldeme (Cameroon, about 95%) is typically Eurasian but has been through so many bottlenecks it’s really lost any genetic affinities to Europeans/Asians. No Igbo, the parent group for Berbers E3b1 is North African in origin and about 24k old. It’s all ludicrous. I’d be surpirsed if their R1b turned out to be a variety you’ll ever find in Europe. My grandfathers was so white and had blue eyes. They have a physical Affinity with Africans yet a Biological and genetic Affinity that is purely Asian, their culture is Asian, and their language most truly ties them with other Asians. No, they’ve got a lot of Eurasian and North African mixed in with them. Try not to think from a biased point of view. Clearly not a simple answer. the veyr pale skin European had is only about 8k old. Also , there is a unique history of M78 v22 and V12 – V12* and V22* were BOTH in what Cruciani called the “Delta Cluster” MOST of delta cluster was variant 22. Thanks Humbug.. but I will admit I to coming across as snotty at times, repeating the same stuff endlessly gets on my nerves now and then. To say, we got our looks from ancient European and Asian ancestors is utter bullocks. Someone posted a thread like a week ago of dirty Oromos claiming Dir are Oromo and the lies were quickly put to rest. I think also the idea of black Africans being contaminated with Arab ancestry seriously winds tham up too. (agree? ! The autosomal studies show that as a whole Somalis are about 40% Eurasian, which is about the same as Ethiopians. Mathilda if you disagree with this simple fact please name any E1b1b subclade closer to V13 than V12! (2) You say Somalis have mix ancestry but our skin is black like other sub saharan africans why is this ? Another question that also comes up is –does Semitic have ASIAN origins? Discover your DNA story and unlock the secrets of your ancestry and genealogy with our DNA kits for ancestry and the world’s most comprehensive DNA database. The overall autosomal study shows Somais like Ethiopians to be aboput 40% Eurasian, but with a lot less historic Arab input. All the non L lineages in the mitochondrial DNA are Eurasian, the E3b1a is ‘mixed race’ from Nubia and the otehr non E,A and B Y chromosomes are Eurasian. I would assume since their ancestors where travelling across the pond quite often, would the european males have a percentage of african genes? It really WOULD be like banging your head against the wall with them. I am a cultural anthropology major, and your use of the term “jet black” to describe a girl’s father from Cameroon is highly offensive- and you SHOULD know better. The likelihood of Punt being in Somalia is pretty low, as it’s explicitly described as being near places in Asia, as being to the West of Egypt, and even calls Puntite the same name as Arabs. Although I think we were origanally from egypt, and some of us have eurasian blood. So, in theory, if we all go back, irrespective of our ethnic we probably look some one from central Ethiopia. Some of these guys have nothing better to do than to wander off that dumb destee site to grapple with their regurgitated/not-sinking-into-their-weeded-little-mind ideas with ZERO basis in anything objective. If you lived in Ethiopia you will witness these. Hey guys, I am a boy aged 16 and living in Copenhagen Denmark. The Oxford History of Ancient Egypt, Ian Shaw, p. 317, 2003: “There is still some debate regarding the precise location of Punt, which was once identified with the region of modern Somalia. I use to ask, so what is my skin colour yellow? I am Somali and I can trace my origins back to Samaale, and there’s not a single gene of what you called caucasian is in my cells. 1 – Egyptians are Arabs. In Somalis, 14 Y chromosome haplogroups were identified including E3b1 (77.6%) and K2 (10.4%). There are a few studies on the Ethiopian DNA and sundries page. Hmm, is that something Eurocentric people have come up with? I'm sure she’ll find someone with more money and status eventually. Mathilda my appologies on behalf of Somalis, First of all it not strange to see Euroasian blood in both Somalis and Ethiopians, Eriterians etc. One of the things you have to grasp with the wall paintings is that they usually aren’t lifelike portraits the way the painted statues are. Information about Punt has been found in ancient Egyptian records of trade missions to this region, previously believed to be in Somalia. You don't wanna learn you just wanna be ignorant, ghetto and loud, When will people realize that all Africans are not the same and don't have the same genetics? explain then why the eskimos native to alaska have dark skin it should have evolved into white skin by now according to your theory of 20,000 years (even non africans would have dark skin?) You have OUR DNA. Also it is clearly seen in the article labeled : I dont know what to say to that. The Somali DNA Project would like to welcome all people with ethnic Somali ancestry who have done or intend to undertake a y-DNA / mt-DNA test. , Jan 11, 2021 at 8:07 PM First of all when it comes to Afro-Asiatic languages I want to focus on three groups Ancient Egyptian, Semitic and Cushitic. They often have a beautiful dark skin. Hi my name is badriya aadam muhammed. Inconsistent methodology and failure to look at broader more complex models of population genesis. I will have to ask you have you ever actually been TO Egypt? And East Asian hair isn’t mainly Caucasian type. Suggesting that Semitic languages came from Africa and not the other way around as many texts have pointed out. In Populations genetics ultimately 1000’s of years later some guys in American Blacks that are tested will come up U174. The TRUE mixed groups are the non-Africans that have an African Genetic marker. And you have the shrivelled nuts to call ME racist. but I’m not sure on that latter one). There is one Egyptian man, who is one mutation away from me. In the same vein Somalis have Somali noses NOT “Euro-type” noses. How can they separate themselves from M2 when their genetic marker comes DIRECTLY FROM M2? I have already gave my piece and said Southern Egyptians. Sampling bias- commonly using samples from northern Egypt, which as had more foreign influx from the Mediterranean and Near East as ‘representative’ of all Egyptians. What is your exact hg? They all say ‘part Caucasoid from a back migration’. The M78 mutation (y chromosome) that is present in East Africans occurred in North East Africa, not East Africa, and it occurred in a mixed Eurasian/African population. these sub-saharan africans do you mean bantu, or nilotic people. to yes =Assyrian(arabocentrist) It does not matter whether he is from the North or the South, or from other Somali areas in Djibouti, Ethiopia or NorthEast Kenya. E3b lineage was subsequently brought into southern Europe during the Somaliland is Referred to in medieval times as Bilad al Barbar (”Land of the Berbers”). When Puntites and Africans are depicted on one and the same monument, care is taken to bring out the physical differences between them, as in the tomb of Amenmose at Thebes. The LAST populations to have an Ethiopian progenitor were the Berber (M35>M81)only 5600 Years ago and their even YOUNGER Sibling (2700 bp) the Southern African and South East African Groups : Datog, Kung, Kwe, Sandawe, etc. I just want to say most somalis are not all dark skin. I am the guardian of a little girl whose father is Somali from Ethiopia. Are you saying Somali’s are not Sub-Saharan Africans? (Agree), mathilda37 – “Saying that E3b moved into North East Africa is wrong- it remained there during the backmigration ”, Back Migrated from where? You also see the browish red in Sudan, The horn of Africa, and African populations in general. These four ethnic groups share similar features, cultures, and languages (collectively called Cushitic or Afro-Asiatic). My mother is from the same family they r cousins and she is very light and has hazel eyes. Im a proud somalian I know I have too much arabian in me but im not gona clam arabian cuz im from somalia and im somalian. my haplogroup is E1b1b1a1b. End of story, when you have a country such as “Sudan” or “The land of the Blacks” – It is IN the Sahara. I simply felt compelled to say something as I don’t think you’re a very happy person. Since M clades are way older and very varied in India, there was never a good case to place M in Africa. Y-Chromosome Phylogeny”, It is speaking of the SHARING of Haplogroup A in Both Khoisan of South Africa and Ethiopians of East Africa. My paternal family originates from Guinea in West Africa. I’m a proponent of the theory that Somalis form the basis for all non-African populations, “The most distinct separation is between African and non-African populations. Only 3.0% of the Somalis had the sub-Saharan African haplogroups A3, B and E3a*(xE3a4). Is there a reason for this? it very simply people did mixes with others in trade,travel to name few..Also Somalia boost the longest coastline so more likely to have mixed with other Arabs, Portuguese to name few while inland migration from Egypt, Sudan to Ethiopia then in present Somalia. The maternal DNA is about 20% M1. Skin tone is purley a response to the brightness of the sun. Ethio: 14, Khoisan: (A-M51) 28.2 In the article announcing this first information, Cruciani et al. All credible DNA ancestry scientists will deny what you are saying and anyone can google to find reputable information from different sources. Yes, initially the topic had absolutely nothing to do with AAs, but. Another thing to consider is Southern Egypt had to be relatively Homogeneous to have such Pure groups migrating FROM Southern Egypt/Northern Sudan. ! Closer to me in Y-DNA, NOT ANYTHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The publishing geneticists (barring Kittles) don’t seem to have an issue with this. M123/M34: NE Africa-MidEast~10%. I get that you don’t like that just about every geneticist publishing on the subject has said east Africans are about 40% Eurasian. Scientists recently decided to name the whole group “Somalid”. Somalis are about half made up of these very ancient Egyptian people. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Use of limited samples as “representative” of “Africans” versus use of broad data ranges to represent Europeanized populations. There's an Cali Saleebaan and an Ciise Maxamuud on the FTDNA project, based on STRs they are most definitely not closely related to Harti but are an almost identical match with a Garre and that's why the DNA … Quote me where I said BLACK Americans descend from the melanisians and australians in this post? You can be Eurocentrist, that’s fine as everyone has their opinion but you should let others speak because there’s no point having a blog when you don’t let those who challenge you to express themselves. The Eurasian haplogroup K2 was found in 10.4%, and 3.0% of the Somali Y chromosomes belonged to the major clade J. Africa is a. The entire Horn of Africa region from Egypt to Somalia have ancient socio-linguistic, genetic and cultural connections and a shared history. Not all groups that have V32 are mixed, some of them dont have ANY mixing at all. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. M35 lineages Go INTO the Middle East spreading Proto-Afriasian come back into the Horn in the form of Semitic. E-M78 (2007) suggest that, E1b1b1a1b (E-V32) is sub-clade of E-V12 originated in North Africa , and then subsequently expanded further south into the Horn of Africa, where it is now prevalent.”. so can the eurasian influence in both maternal and paternal lineages be explained by trade? If you think about how different tribes like the Masai look to west Africans, and add that to a big chunk of Eurasian ancestry, you end up with something Obama-like. The data suggest that the male Somali population is a branch of the East African population – closely related to the Oromos in Ethiopia and North Kenya – with predominant E3b1 cluster  lineages that were introduced into the Somali population 4000–5000 years ago, and that the Somali male population has approximately 15% Y chromosomes from Eurasia and approximately 5% from sub-Saharan Africa. Interesting article, although I am not to fond of using the words eurasian or caucasoid when speaking of East African ancestry. These “Black Egyptians” of southern Egypt look more like Sudanese and East Africans. Did you see how the southern Egyptians and people in areas like Luxor are darker and have a different phenotype than than people in Alexandria? Don’t get pissy about my using an accurate descriptive word Colette. We sure are unique in our own way, we are proud of our EuroAsian and Afro heritage. M35 is pretty uncommon in the Arab areas, M78 and is variants do occur there. 3 – Less migration from outside Africa is seen in the south. And what are traceable Eurasian ancestry? European V13 is much closer to Somali V12, than to any subclade of E1b1b. We are all the same people despite developing differently in different regions of the continent (and eventually in different parts of the world). Even with their African E Y chromosomes Berbers cluster with Europeans and Arabs, not Ethiopians (barring Tuareg who aren’t genetically NW Africans and are pretty recent to the area). (2001), Semino et al. Maqdis. Senegalese dont look like central Africans who dont look like Cameroonians who dont look like people from Burkina Faso – But they all look somewhat the same (Generalized West African), and African Americans look like all of them. I am not denying that ancient Egypt had different racial admixtures because it did over time BUT essentially the Southern Egyptian that we see today and that TV never likes to show represent how the majority of ancient Egyptians prior to racial mixing used to look and they always have been historically what many in America would view as ‘black’ –even today Egyptians are referred to colloquially in Arabic as the dark ones. The East Africans were brought up becasuse DUH this thread is about an East African which you hebrew hoteps claim are admixed because they aren't half past midnight black which you hoteps believe is the only type of African or real black person to exist on earth. Now Racially – If you place these people in Nigeria, they will fit right in with us. ( Log Out /  A gentleman said the some somalis have straight hair but unlike European, well I disagree, I’m pure somali(as in parents are full Somali) and I have soft European like hair as members of my family and relatives have’nt, and I know a few other somalis have too. According to Europeans, they are considered white. National geographic has posted great picture as you have and all those tribes are so interesting and diverse and beautiful. We do have genetc and culture connection. Africa has never been black and it never will be! I say no and so have many of my Arabic language professors. Somali m78 is different to European v13. My mom is an Amhara, but when digging more in to her grand parents I found out that her dad had an Oromo grand Father and her mom to has an Oromo grand mother. They have the highest levels of both M78 AND of the Variant 32 lineage. 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